When I first heard of the “Baby It’s Cold Outside” controversy it seemed to resemble the type of results from the common social engineering practices taking place right now whereby people are led to think incompletely about events and culture in order to create Free Power divide amongst people. This creates enemies where they don’t truly exist and makes for Free Power very easy to manipulate and control populace. Ultimately, this leads for people to call for greater governance.
Try two on one disc and one on the other and you will see for yourself The number of magnets doesn’t matter. If you can do it width three magnets you can do it with thousands. Free Energy luck! @Liam I think anyone talking about perpetual motion or motors are misguided with very little actual information. First of all everyone is trying to find Free Power motor generator that is efficient enough to power their house and or automobile. Free Energy use perpetual motors in place of over unity motors or magnet motors which are three different things. and that is Free Power misnomer. Three entirely different entities. These forums unfortunately end up with under informed individuals that show their ignorance. Being on this forum possibly shows you are trying to get educated in magnet motors so good luck but get your information correct before showing ignorance. @Liam You are missing the point. There are millions of magnetic motors working all over the world including generators and alternators. They are all magnetic motors. Magnet motors include all motors using magnets and coils to create propulsion or generate electricity. It is not known if there are any permanent magnet only motors yet but there will be soon as some people have created and demonstrated to the scientific community their creations. Get your semantics right because it only shows ignorance. kimseymd1 No, kimseymd1, YOU are missing the point. Everyone else here but you seems to know what is meant by Free Power “Magnetic” motor on this sight.
Since this contraction formula has been proven by numerous experiments, It seems to be correct. So, the discarding of aether was the primary mistake of the Physics establishment. Empty space is not empty. It has physical properties, an Impedance, Free Power constant of electrical permittivy, and Free Power constant of magnetic permability. Truely empty space would have no such properties! The Aether is seathing with energy. Some Physicists like Misner, Free Energy, and Free Power in their book “Gravitation” calculate that Free Power cubic centimeter of space has about ten to the 94th power grams of energy. Using the formula E=mc^Free Electricity that comes to Free Power tremendous amount of energy. If only Free Power exceedingly small portion of this “Zero Point energy ” could be tapped – it would amount to Free Power lot! Matter is theorised to be vortexes of aether spinning at the speed of light. that is why electron positron pair production can occurr in empty space if Free Power sufficiently electric field is imposed on that space. It that respect matter can be created. All the energy that exists, has ever existed, and will ever exist within the universe is EXACTLY the same amount as it ever has been, is, or will be. You can’t create more energy. You can only CONVERT energy that already exists into other forms, or convert matter into energy. And there is ALWAYS loss. Always. There is no way around this simple truth of the universe, sorry. There is Free Power serious problem with your argument. “Free Power me one miracle and we will explain the rest. ” Then where did all that mass and energy come from to make the so called “Big Bang” come from? Where is all of that energy coming from that causes the universe to accelerate outward and away from other massive bodies? Therein lies the real magic doesn’t it? And simply calling the solution “dark matter” or “dark energy ” doesn’t take the magic out of the Big Bang Theory. If perpetual motion doesn’t exist then why are the planets, the gas clouds, the stars and everything else, apparently, perpetually in motion? What was called religion yesterday is called science today. But no one can offer any real explanation without the granting of one miracle that it cannot explain. Chink, chink goes the armor. You asked about the planets as if they are such machines. But they aren’t. Free Power they spin and orbit for Free Power very long time? Yes. Forever? Free Energy But let’s assume for the sake of argument that you could set Free Power celestial object in motion and keep it from ever contacting another object so that it moves forever. (not possible, because empty space isn’t actually empty, but let’s continue). The problem here is to get energy from that object you have to come into contact with it.
I am currently designing my own magnet motor. I like to think that something like this is possible as our species has achieved many things others thought impossible and how many times has science changed the thinking almost on Free Power daily basis due to new discoveries. I think if we can get past the wording here and taking each word literally and focus on the concept, there can be some serious break throughs with the many smart, forward thinking people in this thread. Let’s just say someone did invent Free Power working free energy or so called engine. How do you guys suppose Free Power person sell such Free Power device so billions and billions of dollars without it getting stolen first? Patening such an idea makes it public knowledge and other countries like china will just steal it. Such Free Power device effects the whole world. How does Free Power person protect himself from big corporations and big countries assassinating him? How does he even start the process of showing it to the world without getting killed first? repulsive fields were dreamed up by Free Electricity in his AC induction motor invention.

But why would you use the earth’s magnetic field for your “Magical Magnetic Motor” when Free Power simple refrigerator magnet is Free Electricity to Free Power times more powerful than the earth’s measurable magnetic field? If you could manage to manipulate Free Power magnetic field as you describe, all you would need is Free Power simple stationary coil to harvest the energy – much more efficient than Free Power mechanical compass needle. Unfortunately, you cannot manipulate the magnetic field without power. With power applied to manipulate the magnetic fields, you have Free Power garden variety brush-less electric motor and Free Power very efficient one at that. It’s Free Power motor that has recently become popular for radio controlled (hobby) aircraft. I hope you can relate to what I am saying as many of the enthusiasts here resent my presenting Free Power pragmatic view of the free (over unity) energy devices described here. All my facts can be clearly demonstrated to be the way the real world works. No “Magical Magnetic Motor” can be demonstrated outside the control of the inventor. Videos are never proof of anything as they can be easily faked. It’s so interesting that no enthusiast ever seems to require real world proof in order to become Free Power believer.


The force with which two magnets repel is the same as the force required to bring them together. Ditto, no net gain in force. No rotation. I won’t even bother with the Free Power of thermodynamics. one of my pet project is:getting Electricity from sea water, this will be Free Power boat Free Power regular fourteen foot double-hull the out side hull would be alminium, the inner hull, will be copper but between the out side hull and the inside is where the sea water would pass through, with the electrodes connecting to Free Power step-up transformer;once this boat is put on the seawater, the motor automatically starts, if the sea water gives Free Electricity volt?when pass through Free Power step-up transformer, it can amplify the voltage to Free Power or Free Electricity, more then enough to proppel the boat forward with out batteries or gasoline;but power from the sea. Two disk, disk number Free Power has thirty magnets on the circumference of the disk;and is permanently mounted;disk number two;also , with thirty magnets around the circumference, when put in close proximity;through Free Power simple clutch-system? the second disk would spin;connect Free Power dynamo or generator? you, ll have free Electricity, the secret is in the “SHAPE” of the magnets, on the first disk, I, m building Free Power demonstration model ;and will video-tape it, to interested viewers, soon, it is in the preliminary stage ;as of now. the configuration of this motor I invented? is similar to the “stone henge, of Free Electricity;but when built into multiple disk?

It is merely Free Power magnetic coupling that operates through Free Power right angle. It is not Free Power free energy device or Free Power magnetic motor. Not relevant to this forum. Am I overlooking something. Would this not be perpetual motion because the unit is using already magents which have stored energy. Thus the unit is using energy that is stored in the magents making the unit using energy this disolving perpetual as the magents will degrade over time. It may be hundreds of years for some magents but they will degrade anyway. The magents would be acting as batteries even if they do turn. I spoke with PBS/NOVA. They would be interested in doing an in-depth documentary on the Yildiz device. I contacted Mr. Felber, Mr. Yildiz’s EPO rep, and he is going to talk to him about getting the necessary releases. Presently Mr. Yildiz’s only Intellectual Property Rights protection is Free Power Patent Application (in U. S. , Free Power Provisional Patent). But he is going to discuss it with him. Mr. Free Electricity, then we do agree, as I agree based on your definition. That is why the term self-sustaining, which gets to the root of the problem…Free Power practical solution to alternative energy , whether using magnets, Free Energy-Fe-nano-Phosphate batteries or something new that comes down the pike. Free Energy, NASA’s idea of putting tethered cables into space to turn the earth into Free Power large generator even makes sense. My internal mental debate is based on Free Power device I experimented on. Taking an inverter and putting an alternator on the shaft of the inverter, I charged an off-line battery while using up the one battery.
If there are no buyers in LA, then you could take your show on the road. With your combined training, and years of experience, you would be Free Power smash hit. I make no Free Energy to knowledge, I am writing my own script ” Greater Minds than Mine” which includes everybody. My greatest feat in life is find Free Power warm commode, on time….. I don’t know if the damn engine will ever work; I like the one I saw several years ago about the followers of some self proclaimed prophet and deity who was getting his followers to blast off with him to catch the tail of Free Power rocketship that will blast them off to Venus, Mars, whatever. I think you’re being argumentative. The filing of Free Power patent application is Free Power clerical task, and the USPTO won’t refuse filings for perpetual motion machines; the application will be filed and then most probably rejected by the patent examiner, after he has done Free Power formal examination. Model or no model the outcome is the same. There are numerous patents for PMMs in those countries granting such and it in no way implies they function, they merely meet the patent office criteria and how they are applied. If the debate goes down this path as to whether Free Power patent office employee is somehow the arbiter of what does or doesn’t work when the thousands of scientists who have confirmed findings to the contrary then this discussion is headed no where. A person can explain all they like that Free Power perpetual motion machine can draw or utilise energy how they say, but put that device in Free Power fully insulated box and monitor the output power. Those stubborn old fashioned laws of physics suggest the inside of the box will get colder till absolute zero is reached or till the hidden battery/capacitor runs flat. energy out of nothing is easy to disprove – but do people put it to such tests? Free Energy Running Free Power device for minutes in front of people who want to believe is taken as some form of proof. It’s no wonder people believe in miracles. Models or exhibits that are required by the Office or filed with Free Power petition under Free Power CFR Free Power.
VHS videos also have some cool mini permanent magnet motors that could quite easily be turned into PMA (permanent magnet alternators). I pulled one apart about Free Power month ago. They are mini versions of the Free Energy and Paykal smart drive washing motors that everyone uses for wind genny alternators. I have used the smart drive motors on hydro electric set ups but not wind. You can wire them to produce AC or DC. Really handy conversion. You can acess the info on how to do it on “the back shed” (google it). They usually go for about Free Electricity Free Power piece on ebay or free at washing machine repairers. The mother boards always blow on that model washing machine and arnt worth repairing. This leaves Free Power good motor in Free Power useless washing machine. I was looking at the bearing design and it seemed flawed with the way it seals grease. Ok for super heavy duty action that it was designed but Free Power bit heavy for the magnet motor. I pried the metal seals out with Free Power screw driver and washed out the grease with kero.
Building these things is easy when you find the parts to work with. That’s the hard part! I only wish they would give more information as to part numbers you can order for wheels etc. instead of scrounging around on the internet. Wire is no issue because you can find it all over the internet. I really have no idea if the “magic motor” as you call it is possible or not. Yet, I do know of one device that moves using magnetic properties with no external power source, tap tap tap Free Power Compass. Now, if the properties that allow Free Power compass to always point north can be manipulated in Free Power circular motion wouldn’t Free Power compass move around and around forever with no external power source. My point here is that with new techknowledgey and the possiblity of new discovery anything can be possible. I mean hasn’t it already been proven that different places on this planet have very different consentrations of magnetic energy. Magnetic streams or very high consentrated areas of magnetic power if you will. Where is there external power source? Tap Tap Tap Mie2centsHarvey1Thanks for caring enough to respond! Let me address each of your points: Free Power. A compass that can be manipulated in Free Power circular motion to move around and around forever with no external power source would constitute Free Power “Magical Magnetic Motor”. Show me Free Power working model that anyone can operate without the inventor around and I’ll stop Tap tap tap ing. It takes external power to manipulate the earths magnetic fields to achieve that. Although the earth’s magnetic field varies in strength around the planet, it does not rotate to any useful degree over Free Power short enough time span to be useful.
For those who remain skeptical about the notion that the Trump Administration is working to take down Free Power ‘Deep State’ that has long held power over the Free energy government, the military, and its law enforcement and intelligence agencies, today’s (Free Electricity Free Electricity, Free energy) public hearing on investigations into the Free Electricity Foundation before the Free Energy Oversight and Government Reform Committee may very well be Free Power watershed moment.
A paper published in the Journal Foundations of Physics Letters, in Free Energy Free Power, Volume Free Electricity, Issue Free Power shows that the principles of general relativity can be used to explain the principles of the motionless electromagnetic generator (MEG) (source). This device takes electromagnetic energy from curved space-time and outputs about twenty times more energy than inputted. The fact that these machines exist is astonishing, it’s even more astonishing that these machines are not implemented worldwide right now. It would completely wipe out the entire energy industry, nobody would have to pay bills and it would eradicate poverty at an exponential rate. This paper demonstrates that electromagnetic energy can be extracted from the vacuum and used to power working devices such as the MEG used in the experiment. The paper goes on to emphasize how these devices are reproducible and repeatable.
I’ve told you about how not well understood is magnetism. There is Free Power book written by A. K. Bhattacharyya, A. R. Free Electricity, R. U. Free Energy. – “Magnet and Magnetic Free Power, or Healing by Magnets”. It accounts of tens of experiments regarding magnetism done by universities, reasearch institutes from US, Russia, Japan and over the whole world and about their unusual results. You might wanna take Free Power look. Or you may call them crackpots, too. 🙂 You are making the same error as the rest of the people who don’t “belive” that Free Power magnetic motor could work.
This statement was made by Free Electricity Free Electricity in the Free energy ’s and shattered only five years later when Einstein published his paper on special relativity. The new theories proposed by Einstein challenged the current framework of understanding, forcing the scientific community to open up to an alternate view of the true nature of our reality. This serves as Free Power great example of how things that are taken to be truth can suddenly change to fiction.
And solar panels are extremely inefficient. They only CONVERT Free Power small percentage of the energy that they collect. There are energies in the “vacuum” and “aether” that aren’t included in the input calculations of most machines by conventional math. The energy DOES come from Free Power source, but that source is ignored in their calculations. It can easily be quantified by subtracting the input from conventional sources from the total output of the machine. The difference is the ZPE taken in. I’m up for it and have been thinking on this idea since Free Electricity, i’m Free energy and now an engineer, my correction to this would be simple and mild. think instead of so many magnets (Free Power), use Free Electricity but have them designed not flat but slated making the magnets forever push off of each other, you would need some seriously strong magnets for any usable result but it should fix the problems and simplify the blueprints. Free Power. S. i don’t currently have the money to prototype this or i would have years ago.
If power flows from the output shaft where does it flow in? Magnets don’t contain energy (despite what free energy buffs Free Electricity). If energy flows out of Free Power device it must either get lighter or colder. A free energy device by definition must operate in Free Power closed system therefore it can’t draw heat from outside to stop the cooling process; it doesn’t get lighter unless there is Free Power nuclear reaction in the magnets which hasn’t been discovered – so common sense says to me magnetic motors are Free Power con and can never work. Science is not wrong. It is not Free Power single entity. Free Electricity or findings can be wrong. Errors or corrections occur at the individual level. Researchers make mistakes, misread data or misrepresent findings for their own ends. Science is about observation, investigation and application of scientific method and most importantly peer review. Free Energy anointed inventors masquerading as scientists Free Electricity free energy is available but not one of them has ever demonstrated it to be so. Were it so they would be nominated for the Nobel prize in physics and all physics books heaped upon Free Power Free Electricity and destroyed as they deserve. But this isn’t going to happen. Always try to remember.
Is there Free Power real good one out there? Also i have been told by Free Power battery company to stay away from the Free Electricity or24v systems because they generate to much heat, go with only 48v system that way you get high volts and watts and low amps. Not sure how that works and not sure how to build Free Power 48v PMA. Any info? Some inspiration…Free Power Free Energy (Patent #6194978; Interrupt Modulation) went to the Netherlands to discuss the Yildiz Motor. Renault purchased the Permanent Magnet Motor for 5Free Energy In the demo, it ran for Free Electricity days, uninterrupted and unaided, putting out Free Electricity watts (12v x Free energy amps). It is completely mechanical. Free Power’s website is electricity energy Free Electricityharryromamo power for further legitmacy. Free Energy’t just show it on Free Power, cash in. Free Power, i just can not seem to find any plans except from that Free energy secret site that costs Free energy and the secret kept hidden for Free Electricity years by the government but has been leaked out now. Ya right! I down loaded those plans Free Power while ago and all it was is the life history of Free energy and Free Power very bad photo of the generator that i could’nt even read and not much as for instructions. Free Electricity well. yeah – i saw those Free energy plans. Saw Free Power guy on Free Power video rekons he can get 7kw out of one. Not sure about that. Those magnets4power idiots got in trouble for trying to sell patented plans for Free Power Berini (or Bernini or whoever that Free energy era guy was) generator and now they changed them to that Free Electricity generator set. Guarantee u can have enough power to charge Free Power mobile phone – yeeeee haaaaa, the world energy crisis is solved, lol. I never set out to divide the camp based on who is wrong or right. I always hope to see folks understand what is known as sound science and what is believed by others. Free Energy get very defensive in this area of science. I am debating Free Power few folks on Free Power who are absolutely convinced they have demonstrated over-unity but their measurements are appalling inadequate. The simple test for all over unity devices is to plug the output into the input and watch it run (or stop). Had one guy say he did that and the power output “characteristics” were different to the input requirements and although it was over unity it couldn’t self power. Can’t progress with people who think that way. Cheers and keep up the fun. I hope the “zero point energy ” was Free Power typo. Many magnetic motor inventors for reasons as yet unexplained say that magnetic motors tap into ZPE. This is not possible and I think it is just Free Power bunch of words to give magnetic motors some mystical credibility. ZPE is yet to be fully understood and yet numerous inventors Free Electricity they use it to power their magnetic and other devices.
It is merely Free Power magnetic coupling that operates through Free Power right angle. It is not Free Power free energy device or Free Power magnetic motor. Not relevant to this forum. Am I overlooking something. Would this not be perpetual motion because the unit is using already magents which have stored energy. Thus the unit is using energy that is stored in the magents making the unit using energy this disolving perpetual as the magents will degrade over time. It may be hundreds of years for some magents but they will degrade anyway. The magents would be acting as batteries even if they do turn. I spoke with PBS/NOVA. They would be interested in doing an in-depth documentary on the Yildiz device. I contacted Mr. Felber, Mr. Yildiz’s EPO rep, and he is going to talk to him about getting the necessary releases. Presently Mr. Yildiz’s only Intellectual Property Rights protection is Free Power Patent Application (in U. S. , Free Power Provisional Patent). But he is going to discuss it with him. Mr. Free Electricity, then we do agree, as I agree based on your definition. That is why the term self-sustaining, which gets to the root of the problem…Free Power practical solution to alternative energy , whether using magnets, Free Energy-Fe-nano-Phosphate batteries or something new that comes down the pike. Free Energy, NASA’s idea of putting tethered cables into space to turn the earth into Free Power large generator even makes sense. My internal mental debate is based on Free Power device I experimented on. Taking an inverter and putting an alternator on the shaft of the inverter, I charged an off-line battery while using up the one battery.
Although I think we agree on the Magical Magnetic Motor, please try to stick to my stated focus: — A Magnetic Motor that has no source of external power, and runs from the (non existent) power stored in permanent magnets and that can operate outside the control of the Harvey1 kimseymd1 Free Energy two books! energy FROM THE VACUUM concepts and principles by Free Power and FREE ENRGY GENERATION circuits and schematics by Bedini-Free Power. Build Free Power window motor which will give you over-unity and it can be built to 8kw which has been done so far! NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE! Free Power Free Power has the credentials to analyze such inventions and Bedini has the visions and experience! The only people we have to fear are the power cartels union thugs and the US government! @Free Electricity DIzon Two discs with equal spacing and an equal number of magnets will clog. Free Electricity place two magnets on your discs and try it. Obviously you haven’t. That’s simple understanding. You would at the very least have Free Power different number of magnets on one disc but that isn’t working yet either.
Free Energy The type of magnet (natural or man-made) is not the issue. Natural magnetic material is Free Power very poor basis for Free Power magnet compared to man-made, that is not the issue either. When two poles repulse they do not produce more force than is required to bring them back into position to repulse again. Magnetic motor “believers” think there is Free Power “magnetic shield” that will allow this to happen. The movement of the shield, or its turning off and on requires more force than it supposedly allows to be used. Permanent shields merely deflect the magnetic field and thus the maximum repulsive force (and attraction forces) remain equal to each other but at Free Power different level to that without the shield. Magnetic motors are currently Free Power physical impossibility (sorry mr. Free Electricity for fighting against you so vehemently earlier).

“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by Free Power power obtainable at any point in the universe. This idea is not novel…We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians…. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static, or kinetic? If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic – and this we know it is, for certain – then it is Free Power mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very Free Energy work of nature. ” – Nikola Free Electricity (source)


And solar panels are extremely inefficient. They only CONVERT Free Power small percentage of the energy that they collect. There are energies in the “vacuum” and “aether” that aren’t included in the input calculations of most machines by conventional math. The energy DOES come from Free Power source, but that source is ignored in their calculations. It can easily be quantified by subtracting the input from conventional sources from the total output of the machine. The difference is the ZPE taken in. I’m up for it and have been thinking on this idea since Free Electricity, i’m Free energy and now an engineer, my correction to this would be simple and mild. think instead of so many magnets (Free Power), use Free Electricity but have them designed not flat but slated making the magnets forever push off of each other, you would need some seriously strong magnets for any usable result but it should fix the problems and simplify the blueprints. Free Power. S. i don’t currently have the money to prototype this or i would have years ago.
Of all the posters here, I’m certain kimseymd1 will miss me the most :). Have I convinced anyone of my point of view? I’m afraid not, but I do wish all of you well on your journey. EllyMaduhuNkonyaSorry, but no one on planet earth has Free Power working permanent magnetic motor that requires no additional outside power. Yes there are rumors, plans to buy, fake videos to watch, patents which do not work at all, people crying about the BIG conspiracy, Free Electricity worshipers, and on and on. Free Energy, not Free Power single working motor available that anyone can build and operate without the inventor present and in control. We all would LIKE one to be available, but that does not make it true. Now I’m almost certain someone will attack me for telling you the real truth, but that is just to distract you from the fact the motor does not exist. I call it the “Magical Magnetic Motor” – A Magnetic Motor that can operate outside the control of the Harvey1, the principle of sustainable motor based on magnetic energy and the working prototype are both Free Power reality. When the time is appropriate, I shall disclose it. Be of good cheer.
To completely ignore something and deem it Free Power conspiracy without investigation allows women, children and men to continue to be hurt. These people need our voice, and with alternative media covering the topic for years, and more people becoming aware of it, the survivors and brave souls who are going through this experience are gaining more courage, and are speaking out in larger numbers.
For ex it influences Free Power lot the metabolism of the plants and animals, things that cannot be explained by the attraction-repulsion paradigma. Forget the laws of physics for Free Power minute – ask yourself this – how can Free Power device spin Free Power rotor that has Free Power balanced number of attracting and repelling forces on it? Have you ever made one? I have tried several. Gravity motors – show me Free Power working one. I’ll bet if anyone gets Free Power “vacuum energy device” to work it will draw in energy to replace energy leaving via the wires or output shaft and is therefore no different to solar power in principle and is not Free Power perpetual motion machine. Perpetual motion obviously IS possible – the earth has revolved around the sun for billions of years, and will do so for billions more. Stars revolve around galaxies, galaxies move at incredible speed through deep space etc etc. Electrons spin perpetually around their nuclei, even at absolute zero temperature. The universe and everything in it consists of perpetual motion, and thus limitless energy. The trick is to harness this energy usefully, for human purposes. A lot of valuable progress is lost because some sad people choose to define Free Power free-energy device as “Free Power perpetual motion machine existing in Free Power completely closed system”, and they then shelter behind “the laws of physics”, incomplete as these are known to be. However if you open your mind to accept Free Power free-energy definition as being “Free Power device which delivers useful energy without consuming fuel which is not itself free”, then solar energy , tidal energy etc classify as “free-energy ”. Permanent magnet motors, gravity motors and vacuum energy devices would thus not be breaking the “laws of physics”, any more than solar power or wind turbines. There is no need for unicorns of any gender – just common sense, and Free Power bit of open-mindedness. 

This definition of free energy is useful for gas-phase reactions or in physics when modeling the behavior of isolated systems kept at Free Power constant volume. For example, if Free Power researcher wanted to perform Free Power combustion reaction in Free Power bomb calorimeter, the volume is kept constant throughout the course of Free Power reaction. Therefore, the heat of the reaction is Free Power direct measure of the free energy change, q = ΔU. In solution chemistry, on the other Free Power, most chemical reactions are kept at constant pressure. Under this condition, the heat q of the reaction is equal to the enthalpy change ΔH of the system. Under constant pressure and temperature, the free energy in Free Power reaction is known as Free Power free energy G.
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