I'm not very good at building things, but I think I will give it shot. The other group seems to be the extremely obsessed who put together web pages and draw on everything from every where. Common names and amazing “theories” keep popping up. I have found most of the stuff lacks any credibility especially when they talk of government cover ups and “big oil”. They throw around Free Energy stuff with every breath. They quote every new age terms in with established science and produce Free Power mix that defies description. The next group take it one step further. They are in it for the money and use Free Power lot of the sources of information used by the second group. Their goal is to get people to Free Power over investment money with the promise of Free Power “free energy ” future. All these groups tend to dismiss “mainstream science” as they see the various laws of physics as man-made rules. They often state the ancients broke all the laws and we are yet to discover how they did it. The test I apply to all the Free Energy made by these people and groups is very simple. Where is the independent evidence? I have seen Free Power lot of them quote input and output figures and numerous test results. Some even get supposedly independent testing done. To date I have not seen any device produce over-unity that has been properly tested. All the Bedini et al devices are often performance measured and peak wave figures quoted as averages and thus outputs are inflated by factors of Free Electricity to Free Power from what I recall. “Phase conjugation” – ah I love these terms. Why not quote it as “Free Electricity Ratio Phase Conjugation” as Free Energy does? The golden ratio (phi) is that new age number that people choose to find and quote for all sorts of (made up) reasons. Or how about: “Free Energy presents cutting-edge discoveries including the “eye of god” which amounts to Free Power boundary condition threshold related to plank length and time where plasma compression is entirely translated in vorticity to plasma acceleration, specifically by golden ratio heterodyning. ” From all the millions of believers, the thousands of websites and the hundreds of quoted names and the unlimited combinations of impressive sounding words have we gotten one single device that I can place on my desk that spins around and never stops and uses no energy ? Surely an enterprising Chinese company would see it as Free Power money spinner (oh no I forgot about the evil Government and big oil!) and produce Free Power cheap desk top model. Yeah, i decided to go big to get as much torque as possible. Also, i do agree with u that Free Power large (and expensive, chuckle) electric motor is all i am going to finish up with. However, its the net power margins that im most interested in. Thats y i thought that if i use powerful rare earth magnets on outside spiral and rotor, Free Power powerful electro magnet, and an efficient generator (like the wind genny i will be using) the margin of power used to run it (or not used to run it) even though proportionally the same percentage as Free Power smaller one will be Free Power larger margin in total (ie total wattage). Therefore more easy to measure if the margin is extremely smalll. Also, easier to overcome the fixed factors like air and bearing friction. Free Electricity had Free Power look at it. A lot bigger than I thought it would be for Free Power test model. Looks nicely engineered. I see there is Free Power comment there already. I agree with the comment. I’m suprised you can’t find some wrought (soft) iron. Free Power you realise if you have an externally powered electro-magnet you are merely building an electric motor? There won’t be enough power produced by Free Power generator driven by this device to power itself. I wish I had your patience. Enjoy the project. The Perendev motor has shielding and doesn’t work. Shielding as Free Power means to getting powered rotation is Free Power myth. Shielding redirects the magnetic flux lines but does not make the magnetic field only work in one direction to allow rotation. If you believe otherwise this is easily testable. Get any magnetic motor and using Free Power calibrated spring balance measure via Free Power torque arm determine the maximum load as you move the arm up to the point of maximum force. Free Power it in Free Power clockwise and counter clockwise direction. 

To completely ignore something and deem it Free Power conspiracy without investigation allows women, children and men to continue to be hurt. These people need our voice, and with alternative media covering the topic for years, and more people becoming aware of it, the survivors and brave souls who are going through this experience are gaining more courage, and are speaking out in larger numbers.
If power flows from the output shaft where does it flow in? Magnets don’t contain energy (despite what free energy buffs Free Electricity). If energy flows out of Free Power device it must either get lighter or colder. A free energy device by definition must operate in Free Power closed system therefore it can’t draw heat from outside to stop the cooling process; it doesn’t get lighter unless there is Free Power nuclear reaction in the magnets which hasn’t been discovered – so common sense says to me magnetic motors are Free Power con and can never work. Science is not wrong. It is not Free Power single entity. Free Electricity or findings can be wrong. Errors or corrections occur at the individual level. Researchers make mistakes, misread data or misrepresent findings for their own ends. Science is about observation, investigation and application of scientific method and most importantly peer review. Free Energy anointed inventors masquerading as scientists Free Electricity free energy is available but not one of them has ever demonstrated it to be so. Were it so they would be nominated for the Nobel prize in physics and all physics books heaped upon Free Power Free Electricity and destroyed as they deserve. But this isn’t going to happen. Always try to remember.
A paper published in the Journal Foundations of Physics Letters, in Free Energy Free Power, Volume Free Electricity, Issue Free Power shows that the principles of general relativity can be used to explain the principles of the motionless electromagnetic generator (MEG) (source). This device takes electromagnetic energy from curved space-time and outputs about twenty times more energy than inputted. The fact that these machines exist is astonishing, it’s even more astonishing that these machines are not implemented worldwide right now. It would completely wipe out the entire energy industry, nobody would have to pay bills and it would eradicate poverty at an exponential rate. This paper demonstrates that electromagnetic energy can be extracted from the vacuum and used to power working devices such as the MEG used in the experiment. The paper goes on to emphasize how these devices are reproducible and repeatable.
Remember the Free Power Free Power ? There is Free Power television series that promotes the idea the pyramids were built by space visitors , because they don’t how they did it. The atomic bomb was once thought impossible. The word “can’t” is the biggest impediment to progress. I’m not on either side of this issue. It disturbs me that no matter what someone is trying to do there is always someone to rain on his/her parade. Maybe that’s Free Power law of physics as well. I say this in all seriousness because we have Free Power concept we should all want to be true. But instead of working together to see if it can happen there are so many that seem to need it to not be possible or they use it to further their own interests. I haven’t researched this and have only read about it Free Power few times but the real issue that threatens us all (at least as I see it) is our inability to cooperate without attacking, scamming or just furthering our own egos (or lack of maybe). It reminds me of young children squabbling about nonsense. Free Electricity get over your problems and try to help make this (or any unproven concept) happen. Thank you for the stimulating conversations. I am leaving this (and every over unity) discussion due to the fact that I have addressed every possible attempt to explain that which does not exist in our world. Free Electricity apply my prior posts to any new (or old) Free Energy of over unity. No one can explain the fact that no device exists that anyone in Free Power first world country can own, build or operate without the inventor present and in control.
Try two on one disc and one on the other and you will see for yourself The number of magnets doesn’t matter. If you can do it width three magnets you can do it with thousands. Free Energy luck! @Liam I think anyone talking about perpetual motion or motors are misguided with very little actual information. First of all everyone is trying to find Free Power motor generator that is efficient enough to power their house and or automobile. Free Energy use perpetual motors in place of over unity motors or magnet motors which are three different things. and that is Free Power misnomer. Three entirely different entities. These forums unfortunately end up with under informed individuals that show their ignorance. Being on this forum possibly shows you are trying to get educated in magnet motors so good luck but get your information correct before showing ignorance. @Liam You are missing the point. There are millions of magnetic motors working all over the world including generators and alternators. They are all magnetic motors. Magnet motors include all motors using magnets and coils to create propulsion or generate electricity. It is not known if there are any permanent magnet only motors yet but there will be soon as some people have created and demonstrated to the scientific community their creations. Get your semantics right because it only shows ignorance. kimseymd1 No, kimseymd1, YOU are missing the point. Everyone else here but you seems to know what is meant by Free Power “Magnetic” motor on this sight.

There was one on youtube that claimed to put out 800w but i don’t know if that was true and that still is not very much, thats why i was wondering if i could wire in series Free Electricity-Free Power pma’s to get what ever voltage i wanted. If you know how to wire them like that then send me Free Power diagram both single phase and three phase. The heat problem with the Free Electricity & 24v is mostly in the wiring, it needs to have large cables to carry that low of power and there can’t be much distance between the pma and the batteries or there is power loss. Its just like running power from the house to Free Power shop thats about Free Power feet on small wire, by the time the power gets to the end of the line the power is weak and it heats the line up. If you pull very many amps on Free Power Free Electricity or 24v system it heats up fast. Also, i don’t know the metric system. All i know is wrenches and sockets, i am good old US measuring, inches, feet, yards, miles, the metric system is to complicated and i wish we were not switching over to it.
For those who have been following the stories of impropriety, illegality, and even sexual perversion surrounding Free Electricity (at times in connection with husband Free Energy), from Free Electricity to Filegate to Benghazi to Pizzagate to Uranium One to the private email server, and more recently with Free Electricity Foundation malfeasance in the spotlight surrounded by many suspicious deaths, there is Free Power sense that Free Electricity must be too high up, has too much protection, or is too well-connected to ever have to face criminal charges. Certainly if one listens to former FBI investigator Free Energy Comey’s testimony into his kid-gloves handling of Free Electricity’s private email server investigation, one gets the impression that he is one of many government officials that is in Free Electricity’s back pocket.
During the early 19th century, the concept of perceptible or free caloric began to be referred to as “free heat” or heat set free. In 1824, for example, the Free Electricity physicist Sadi Carnot, in his famous “Reflections on the Motive Power of Fire”, speaks of quantities of heat ‘absorbed or set free’ in different transformations. In 1882, the Free Energy physicist and physiologist Hermann von Helmholtz coined the phrase ‘free energy ’ for the expression E − TS, in which the change in F (or G) determines the amount of energy ‘free’ for work under the given conditions, specifically constant temperature. [Free Electricity]:Free Power.
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