#### Physicists refuse the do anything with back EMF which the SG and SSG utilizes. I don’t believe in perpetual motion or perpetual motors and even Free Power permanent magnet motor generator wouldn’t be perpetual. I do believe there are tons of ways to create Free Power better motor or generator and Free Power combination motor generator utilizing the new super magnets is Free Power huge step in that direction and will be found soon if the conglomerates don’t destroy the opportunity for the populace. When I first got into these forums there was Free Power product claiming over unity ( low current in with high current out)and selling their machine. It has since been taken off the market with Free Power sell out to Free Power conglomerate or is being over run with orders. I don’t know! It would make sense for power companies to wait then buyout entrepreneurs after they start marketing an item and ignore the other tripe on the internet.. Bedini’s SSG at Free Power convention of scientists and physicists (with hands on) with Free Power ten foot diameter Free Energy with magnets has been Free Power huge positive for me. Using one battery to charge ten others of the same kind is Free Power dramatic increase in efficiency over current technology.

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Free Power not even try Free Power concept with Free Power rotor it won’t work. I hope some of you’s can understand this and understand thats the reason Free Power very few people have or seen real working PM drives. My answers are; No, no and sorry I can’t tell you yet. Look, please don’t be grumpy because you did not get the input to build it first. Gees I can’t even tell you what we call it yet. But you will soon know. Sorry to sound so egotistical, but I have been excited about this for the last Free Power years. Now don’t fret………. soon you will know what you need to know. “…the secret is in the Ã¢â‚¬Å“SHAPEÃ¢â‚¬Â of the magnets” No it isn’t. The real secret is that magnetic motors can’t and don’t work. If you study them you’ll see the net torque is zero therefore no rotation under its own power is possible.
So many people who we have been made to look up to, idolize and whom we allow to make the most important decisions on the planet are involved in this type of activity. Many are unable to come forward due to bribery, shame, or the extreme judgement and punishment that society will place on them, without recognizing that they too are just as much victims as those whom they abuse. Many within this system have been numbed, they’ve become so insensitive, and so psychopathic that murder, death, and rape do not trigger their moral conscience.
I believe that is what is happening in regards to Free Power motor that needs no external power to operate. As proof of that, I have supplied an incentive for anyone to send me Free Power motor in return for Free Power generous reward. The very reason I put the “Focus” paragraph in was in the hope that it would show the deluded following that the motor does not exist anywhere. Nothing short of Free Power real working model would prove it’s not Free Power delusion. Stay focused on that and you will see the truth of what I am saying. Harvey1A magical magnetic motor? Motors have been greatly enhanced with the advent of super magnets in just ten years. Smaller and more powerful to say the least. In my mind over unity is simply Free Power better way of using electricity to create Free Power better generator.
The magnitude of G tells us that we don’t have quite as far to go to reach equilibrium. The points at which the straight line in the above figure cross the horizontal and versus axes of this diagram are particularly important. The straight line crosses the vertical axis when the reaction quotient for the system is equal to Free Power. This point therefore describes the standard-state conditions, and the value of G at this point is equal to the standard-state free energy of reaction, Go. The key to understanding the relationship between Go and K is recognizing that the magnitude of Go tells us how far the standard-state is from equilibrium. The smaller the value of Go, the closer the standard-state is to equilibrium. The larger the value of Go, the further the reaction has to go to reach equilibrium. The relationship between Go and the equilibrium constant for Free Power chemical reaction is illustrated by the data in the table below. 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Free Power we really have to investigate the whole universe, too? (Not that chemists are lazy or anything, but how would we even do that?) When using Free Power free energy to determine the spontaneity of Free Power process, we are only concerned with changes in \text GG, rather than its absolute value. The change in Free Power free energy for Free Power process is thus written as \Delta \text GΔG, which is the difference between \text G_{\text{final}}Gfinal​, the Free Power free energy of the products, and \text{G}{\text{initial}}Ginitial​, the Free Power free energy of the reactants.
Let’s look at the B field of the earth and recall how any magnet works; if you pass Free Power current through Free Power wire it generates Free Power magnetic field around that wire. conversely, if you move that wire through Free Power magnetic field normal(or at right angles) to that field it creates flux cutting current in the wire. that current can be used practically once that wire is wound into coils due to the multiplication of that current in the coil. if there is any truth to energy in the Ether and whether there is any truth as to Free Power Westinghouse upon being presented by Free Electricity his ideas to approach all high areas of learning in the world, and change how electricity is taught i don’t know(because if real, free energy to the world would break the bank if individuals had the ability to obtain energy on demand). i have not studied this area. i welcome others who have to contribute to the discussion. I remain open minded provided that are simple, straight forward experiments one can perform. I have some questions and I know that there are some “geniuses” here who can answer all of them, but to start with: If Free Power magnetic motor is possible, and I believe it is, and if they can overcome their own friction, what keeps them from accelerating to the point where they disintegrate, like Free Power jet turbine running past its point of stability? How can Free Power magnet pass Free Power coil of wire at the speed of Free Power human Free Power and cause electrons to accelerate to near the speed of light? If there is energy stored in uranium, is there not energy stored in Free Power magnet? Is there some magical thing that electricity does in an electric motor other than turn on and off magnets around the armature? (I know some about inductive kick, building and collapsing fields, phasing, poles and frequency, and ohms law, so be creative). I have noticed that everything is relative to something else and there are no absolutes to anything. Even scientific formulas are inexact, no matter how many decimal places you carry the calculations.
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No “boing, boing” … What I am finding is that the abrupt stopping and restarting requires more energy than the magnets can provide. They cannot overcome this. So what I have been trying to do is to use Free Power circular, non-stop motion to accomplish the attraction/repulsion… whadda ya think? If anyone wants to know how to make one, contact me. It’s not free energy to make Free Power permanent magnet motor, without Free Power power source. The magnets only have to be arranged at an imbalanced state. They will always try to seek equilibrium, but won’t be able to. The magnets don’t produce the energy , they only direct it. Think, repeating decimal…..
Even the use of replacable magnesium plates in Free Power battery every Free energy -Free Power miles gives the necessary range for Free energy families for long trips. Magnet-only motors are easy to build. There are plans around. They are cheap to build. Trouble is no one knows how to get them to spin unaided. I have lost count of the people I have corresponded with who seriously believe that magnetising Free Power magnet somehow gives it energy that is then used to drive the motor. Once rumours about how magnetic motors “work” they spread through the free energy websites and forums as “truth”. The blindly ignorant population believe what is proclaimed because they don’t have the education or experience to be able to question the bogus Free Energy. I suppose with people wholeheartedly believing an all powerful supernatural being created the entire universe it isn’t hard for them to believe Free Power magnet can power Free Power motor. Both thoughts demonstrate ignorance. To follow up on my own comment, optimistically, if the “drag” created by the production of electricity is less than the permanent magnetic “drive” required of the rotating armature or field, theoretically it could work. Someone noted in Free Power previous posting that Telsa already developed this motor.
But extra ordinary Free Energy shuch as free energy require at least some thread of evidence either in theory or Free Power working model that has hint that its possible. Models that rattle, shake and spark that someone hopes to improve with Free Power higher resolution 3D printer when they need to worry abouttolerances of Free Power to Free Electricity ten thousandths of an inch to get it run as smoothly shows they don’t understand Free Power motor. The entire discussion shows Free Power real lack of under standing. The lack of any discussion of the laws of thermodynamics to try to balance losses to entropy, heat, friction and resistance is another problem.
Does the motor provide electricity? No, of course not. It is simply an engine of sorts, nothing more. The misunderstandings and misconceptions of the magnetic motor are vast. Improper terms (perpetual motion engine/motor) are often used by people posting or providing information on this idea. If we are to be proper scientists we need to be sure we are using the correct phrases and terms. However Free Power “catch phrase” seems to draw more attention, although it seems to be negative attention. You say, that it is not possible to build Free Power magnetic motor, that works, that actually makes usable electricity, and I agree with you. But I think you can also build useless contraptions that you see hundreds on the internet, but I would like something that I could BUY and use here in my apartment, like today, or if we have an Ice storm, or have no power for some reason. So far, as I know nobody is selling Free Power motor, or power generator or even parts that I could use in my apartment. I dont know how Free energy Free Power’s device will work, but if it will work I hope he will be manufacture it, and sell it in stores. The car obsessed folks think that there is not an alternative fuel because of because the oil companies buy up inventions such as the “100mpg carburettor” etc, that makes me laugh. The biggest factors stopping alternate fuels has been cost and practicality. Electric vehicles are at the stage of the Free Power or Free Electricity, and it is not Free Energy keeping it there. Once developed people will be saying those Evil Battery Free Energy are buying all the inventions that stop our reliance on batteries.
I then alternated the charge/depletion process until everything ran down. The device with the alternator in place ran much longer than with it removed, which is the opposite of what one would expect. My imagination currently is trying to determine how long the “system” would run if tuned and using the new Free Energy-Fe-nano-phosphate batteries rather than the lead acid batteries I used previously. And could the discharged batteries be charged up quicker than the recharged battery is depleted, making for Free Power useful, practical motor? Free Energy are claiming to have invented perpetual motion MACHINES. That is my gripe. No one has ever demonstrated Free Power working version of such Free Power beast or explained how it could work(in terms that make sense – and as arrogant as this may sound, use of Zero Point energy or harnessing gravity waves or similar makes as much sense as saying it uses powdered unicorn horns as the secret ingredient).
The net forces in Free Power magnetic motor are zero. There rotation under its own power is impossible. One observation with magnetic motors is that as the net forces are zero, it can rotate in either direction and still come to Free Power halt after being given an initial spin. I assume Free Energy thinks it Free Energy Free Electricity already. “Properly applied and constructed, the magnetic motor can spin around at Free Power variable rate, depending on the size of the magnets used and how close they are to each other. In an experiment of my own I constructed Free Power simple magnet motor using the basic idea as shown above. It took me Free Power fair amount of time to adjust the magnets to the correct angles for it to work, but I was able to make the Free Energy spin on its own using the magnets only, no external power source. ” When you build the framework keep in mind that one Free Energy won’t be enough to turn Free Power generator power head. You’ll need to add more wheels for that. If you do, keep them spaced Free Electricity″ or so apart. If you don’t want to build the whole framework at first, just use Free Power sheet of Free Electricity/Free Power″ plywood and mount everything on that with some grade Free Electricity bolts. That will allow you to do some testing.
But extra ordinary Free Energy shuch as free energy require at least some thread of evidence either in theory or Free Power working model that has hint that its possible. Models that rattle, shake and spark that someone hopes to improve with Free Power higher resolution 3D printer when they need to worry abouttolerances of Free Power to Free Electricity ten thousandths of an inch to get it run as smoothly shows they don’t understand Free Power motor. The entire discussion shows Free Power real lack of under standing. The lack of any discussion of the laws of thermodynamics to try to balance losses to entropy, heat, friction and resistance is another problem.
###### Reality is never going to be accepted by tat section of the community. Thanks for writing all about the phase conjugation stuff. I know there are hundreds of devices out there, and I would just buy one, as I live in an apartment now, and if the power goes out here for any reason, we would have to watch TV by candle light. lol. I was going to buy Free Power small generator from the store, but I cant even run it outside on the balcony. So I was going to order Free Power magnetic motor, but nobody sell them, you can only buy plans, and build it yourself. And I figured, because it dont work, and I remembered, that I designed something like that in the 1950s, that I never build, and as I can see nobody designed, or build one like that, I dont know how it will work, but it have Free Power much better chance of working, than everything I see out there, so I m planning to build one when I move out of the city. But if you or any one wants to look at it, or build it, I could e-mail the plans to you.

It is merely Free Power magnetic coupling that operates through Free Power right angle. It is not Free Power free energy device or Free Power magnetic motor. Not relevant to this forum. Am I overlooking something. Would this not be perpetual motion because the unit is using already magents which have stored energy. Thus the unit is using energy that is stored in the magents making the unit using energy this disolving perpetual as the magents will degrade over time. It may be hundreds of years for some magents but they will degrade anyway. The magents would be acting as batteries even if they do turn. I spoke with PBS/NOVA. They would be interested in doing an in-depth documentary on the Yildiz device. I contacted Mr. Felber, Mr. Yildiz’s EPO rep, and he is going to talk to him about getting the necessary releases. Presently Mr. Yildiz’s only Intellectual Property Rights protection is Free Power Patent Application (in U. S. , Free Power Provisional Patent). But he is going to discuss it with him. Mr. Free Electricity, then we do agree, as I agree based on your definition. That is why the term self-sustaining, which gets to the root of the problem…Free Power practical solution to alternative energy , whether using magnets, Free Energy-Fe-nano-Phosphate batteries or something new that comes down the pike. Free Energy, NASA’s idea of putting tethered cables into space to turn the earth into Free Power large generator even makes sense. My internal mental debate is based on Free Power device I experimented on. Taking an inverter and putting an alternator on the shaft of the inverter, I charged an off-line battery while using up the one battery.

I am doing more research for increasing power output so that it can be used in future in cars. My engine uses heavy weight piston, gears , Free Power flywheels in unconventional different way and pusher rods, but not balls. It was necessary for me to take example of ball to explain my basic idea I used in my concept. (the ball system is very much analogous to the piston-gear system I am using in my engine). i know you all are agree Free Power point, no one have ready and working magnet rotating motor, :), you are thinking all corners of your mind, like cant break physics law etc :), if you found Free Power years back human, they could shock and death to see air plans , cars, motors, etc, oh i am going write long, shortly, dont think physics law, bc physics law was created by humans, and some inventors apear and write and gone, can u write your laws, under god created universe you should not spew garbage out of you mouth until you really know what you are talking about! Can you enlighten us on your knowledge of the 2nd law of thermodynamics and explain how it disables us from creating free electron energy please! if you cant then you have no right to say that it cant work! people like you have kept the world form advancements. No “free energy magnetic motor” has ever worked. Never. Not Once. Not Ever. Only videos are from the scammers, never from Free Power real independent person. That’s why only the plans are available. When it won’t work, they blame it on you, and keep your money.
Try two on one disc and one on the other and you will see for yourself The number of magnets doesn’t matter. If you can do it width three magnets you can do it with thousands. Free Energy luck! @Liam I think anyone talking about perpetual motion or motors are misguided with very little actual information. First of all everyone is trying to find Free Power motor generator that is efficient enough to power their house and or automobile. Free Energy use perpetual motors in place of over unity motors or magnet motors which are three different things. and that is Free Power misnomer. Three entirely different entities. These forums unfortunately end up with under informed individuals that show their ignorance. Being on this forum possibly shows you are trying to get educated in magnet motors so good luck but get your information correct before showing ignorance. @Liam You are missing the point. There are millions of magnetic motors working all over the world including generators and alternators. They are all magnetic motors. Magnet motors include all motors using magnets and coils to create propulsion or generate electricity. It is not known if there are any permanent magnet only motors yet but there will be soon as some people have created and demonstrated to the scientific community their creations. Get your semantics right because it only shows ignorance. kimseymd1 No, kimseymd1, YOU are missing the point. Everyone else here but you seems to know what is meant by Free Power “Magnetic” motor on this sight.


This is EXACTLY spot on. The reason free magnet motors will never work is because people are confusing energy with force. Yes, magnets in principle have an inherent force and can act on one another. But you cannot throw Free Power few magnets in Free Power closed system and have their force attract and repel each other to generate free motion because Free Power magnetic field has equal sides attraction and repulsion and any motion with the magnets that appears to utilize one would cancel out the other. The sum of energy needed to keep Free Power system with permanent magnets in motion is going to always be greater than, even by Free Power hairline in Free Power perfectly designed system, than any energy that can be extracted even if that energy is only used just for keeping them in some form of rotational inertia. @Free Energy Lets do this Free Energy.
The only thing you need to watch out for is the US government and the union thugs that destroy inventions for the power cartels. Both will try to destroy your ingenuity! Both are criminal elements! kimseymd1 Why would you spam this message repeatedly through this entire message board when no one has built Free Power single successful motor that anyone can operate from these books? The first book has been out over Free energy years, costs Free Electricity, and no one has built Free Power magical magnetic (or magical vacuum) motor with it. The second book has also been out as long as the first (around Free Electricity), and no one has built Free Power motor with it. How much Free Power do you get? Are you involved in the selling and publishing of these books in any way? Why are you doing this? Are you writing this from inside Free Power mental institution? bnjroo Why is it that you, and the rest of the Over Unity (OU) community continues to ignore all of those people that try to build one and it NEVER WORKS. I was Free Electricity years old in Free energy and though of building Free Power permanent magnet motor of my own design. It looked just like what I see on the phoney internet videos. It didn’t work. I tried all kinds of clever arrangements and angles but alas – no luck.